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Post by roxanna on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:29 am


Yesterday I watched a documentary about coca cola factories in Columbia, and how they ,coca cola , kill and torture union leaders for wanting to get some sort of fair wage and conditions for the workers.not re-enactments, but real people ,i couldn't believe what actually goes on .there must be a link some where, will see what i can find.
coca cola is the one and only soft drink i will have on odd occasions , now i feel i never want to see the stuff again, but have not been put to the test yet.

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:23 am

I answered this on Yahoo. Seems that anything and everything honestly comes at another's expense.
How strong are my personal convictions? Hmmm... don't buy Nike! Don't buy name brands most times. Most things are gimmicks and people buy into them, which makes companies feel this urge to push harder to sell it... and many companies don't really care how... as long as it's done.
I wonder if we'd just have to quit living.. almost totally... in order to boycott every bad thing marketed.

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Post by roxanna on Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:42 am

breezey, I agree, there would be very little left if we boycott everything that is manufactured unethically . i just hate to think other people suffer so much in order for me to have what ever .it's beyond my control, any difference i make would be in my mind only,i just can't justify it. who ever said that life is fair?

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:28 am

The Nestle water... over 70 brands from them alone! Probably the same applies to other products we buy. Sometimes, when I buy a product and read who actually makes it, I am surprised! A lot of name brand and generic are made by the same companies.
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Post by roxanna on Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:22 am

had a quick peek at the link, love the part where they describe themselves as caring for people laughing ass off ,and give advice on being active ,yea, they sure keep them active in Columbia ,and no doubt in other places as well Mad

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Post by Tater Salad on Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:05 am

I try to live by the golden rule. I found a five dollar bill on the ground in front of a drug store a couple of months ago, lying next to a cash register receipt. Lord knows I could have used the money, and if it wasn't obvious that the receipt and money belonged to the same person, chances are I would have kept it. I took them both into the store and asked the clerks if they could possibly track down the person who made that purchase, and they seemed to have a pretty good idea of who it was. Hopefully the next time she was in the store, they got their money back.

There was another time, twice actually, when a passenger handed me a bill to pay their fare, and from the amount they asked for back, it was obvious that they thought they were handing me a twenty, and not a fifty, so I promptly pointed out that they had given me a fifty. (In one case it was a twenty and not a ten.) They were very appreciative, but I would like to think they would have done the same for me, or for my mom, or friends...

Although I have gone against my personal convictions at times, if I can avoid it, I try not to buy anything at Walmart, since much of their merchandise is made in sweatshop conditions, for very little pay even by East Asian standards.

80+ hour workweeks are common, forced overtime 6 or even 7 days a week, for literally pennies per hour. Yes, the cost of living is a lot lower there, but not THAT low; what the average employee in Bangladesh or Packistan, or Guatemala, or the Phillipines makes is not really sufficient for even the bare necesities, such as food, clothing and shelter. Monitored and extremely limited bathroom breaks, workers being screamed at, even physically disciplined, etc...

And guess what? Many of these factories not only make clothes and other merchandise FOR Walmart, but many of them are actually OWNED by Walmart!

It's not just Walmart that does this, but they are a very big part of the problem. And it's not just the way the manufacturers' employees are treated, it's the way they treat their own employees here in their stores and in their distribution centers. When you here about class action lawsuits against them for things like unpaid overtime, you can be assured it's not just isolated occurrences, but it is ingrained in their store culture, from the top down.

Did you know that the company actually encourages their rank and file to apply for public assistance, to help keep their costs of healthcare down? Full time, entry level pay qualifies as poverty level wages, even for a single person with no children. To make matters worse, many employees tell me they are routinely scheduled to work until 11 pm or 12 am one night, and be back in at 6 or 7 am the next morning. If they complain about it, they are told they have plenty of other applicants willing to do it.

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:50 am

"To make matters worse, many employees tell me they are routinely
scheduled to work until 11 pm or 12 am one night, and be back in at 6 or
7 am the next morning. If they complain about it, they are told they
have plenty of other applicants willing to do it."

Try leaving that store at midnight and be told you are scheduled for five in the morning! Not even enough time to go home, sleep, eat and be back on time!

There are many businesses just like that.
Do you think society (normal, every day people) contribute to that by demanding name brand?

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Post by roxanna on Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:27 pm


Do you think society (normal, every day people) contribute to that by demanding name brand?
yes,absolutely Breezey.If enough of us didn't buy the stuff, it couldn't happen,but 'they' have organised things so we have no,or very little choice,in where the things we need, or think we need,come from.


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