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Post by P on Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:38 pm

I'm displaying my culinary ignorance again. My daughter, bless her, has given us some kefir grains. I looked at them with a questioning expression, they just looked back! I thought they might be hungry so I gave them some milk. They seemed to approve. I hear it was the right thing to do. I'm told that they contain yeast? This means just one thing to me! My hopes rose at the prospect of a merry Christmas fueled by vast amounts of free cheer, perhaps a new vintage of whisy to replenish my dwindling stocks perhaps? I fear not however, life just isn't like that.

Does anyone have any helpful tips to share before they get upset and eat the inside of my fridge?


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Re: Kefir

Post by Tater Salad on Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:00 am

Kefir is sorta kinda like a cross between buttermilk and yogurt, sorta kinda.
You can throw it in the blender with a few strawberries, blueberries, etc, and have a smoothie like drink.

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Post by P on Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:33 am

Thanks big T, I'll try that. It spiced up my morning porridge today.

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I've come to the conclusion that I like kefir. It seems its one thing I can grow (apart from garden weeds that is). I might have to get extra milk though, I dont suppose it likes water?


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Re: Kefir

Post by Tater Salad on Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:21 am

Water by itself, probably not. The yeast needs sugar to reproduce.

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Re: Kefir

Post by P on Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:02 am

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I'm teasing, sorry, I'll treat it kindly. I'm quite taken with kefir though. Once again my kids have taught me something I didn't discover for myself.

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Re: Kefir

Post by Tater Salad on Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:35 am

It's not your fault, unless you've lived in Central Asia or Eastern Europe. Kefir has been very popular there for decades, if not centuries, but has only recently been "discovered" by the west.

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Post by P on Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:03 am

I tried it blended with banana. It seemed to bring out a different taste completely, difficult to describe as it didnt seem to be like either. I have to keep experimenting! It just keeps growing and growing.


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Post by Breezey Breezey on Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:43 am

I don't know much about this, except I love this drink with Kefir. smile2
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Post by P on Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:09 am

I dont think I could manage quite that much. How big are the bottles?



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Post by Breezey Breezey on Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:13 am

Silly man! Pour some in a glass! lol

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Post by P on Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:15 am

Half full, or half empty?

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:17 am

It's only as full or empty as you tend to see it. How's your eyesight?

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Re: Kefir

Post by P on Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:26 am

This is starting to sound like a philosophy section!


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Post by Breezey Breezey on Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:21 pm

I have to be able to get my thinking and thoughts out somewhere! lol

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Post by P on Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:16 am

I'm always happy to listen and learn!

Well, New Year celebrations are passed. The kefir just grows and grows. It has its own home now, in its own bottles in the kitchen (perhaps it will start cooking breakfast if I'm nice). The fridge always seems to have a stock laid in of the final product.

My daughter tried it and did NOT approve! (or maybe it was just more of a case of disagreeing with her sister on principle). She said it tasted like vinegar. I can see what she means although I hadn't thought of it in those particular terms. For my part its welcome to stay for as long as it likes to work for its milky supper (and my tasty breakfast).

We have now upped production to two batches! While one is feeding the other is draining. It doesn't last long. Perhaps we have come to it a little late in life, but it seems to have been one of last years successes. It seems that our children can sometimes teach us a thing or two, so, that and tattoos!

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:36 am

Well, this seems like something I'd like to try! See what you've started?!  fridge

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Post by P on Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:07 pm

When I jested about using water I was being facetious. Serves me right as usual. I wonder how much difference there is in the cultures between the water and milk varieties? We just don't know until we try these things out.

We follow the process much as the link. We havent used any metal as that was the advice given to us. We use ordinary plastic jars, wide tops or you'll never get it out. We keep them capped, excluding the air hasn't had any ill effects so far and stops contamination while the kefir is "cooking". It needs a wide mesh plastic strainer as the liquid is quite thick, like cheese curds, the remaining lumps for the next batch are like raw cauliflower.

It is best mixed with something. Flavoured yoghurt is a favorite of mine.


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Post by Breezey Breezey on Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:18 pm

Thank you for the tips, information, descriptions and such. smile2 
Thinking of making this a project... once I find Kefir grains?

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:33 pm

posting another link that has more interesting information. smile2
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Post by P on Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:58 pm

Returning to the subject kefir has proved to be a success overall, and I'm still learning with kefir a component in my daily diet.

I've learned NOT to put it in hot drinks !!!!!


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Post by Tater Salad on Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:24 am

I would think that it would curdle, no?

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Post by P on Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:24 am

Right first time. I was considering chocolate flavoured kefir cheese, but I was on my way to bed at the time. Not something I'm going to try again. The texture leaves a lot to be desired! Good job it was just a top-up.



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Post by roxanna on Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:20 am

+thanks for the link breezey, I pinned it, though I've heard about the benefits of kafir I've never tried making it, I will do so now.
after kambucha (a long time ago ,the novelty wore off)and fermented chicken feed (that they wont eat! ) I think this sounds like the way to go.

by the way ,does anybody know anything about egg plant? mine are the small Lebanese ones, there are no hints when ready to pick ,they are deep purple from birth ! so the ones I picked are green inside, but preserving them anyway ....they won't kill me ..will they?
I couldn't find the info on the net, except for recipes .

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Post by Tater Salad on Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:45 am

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Hope it helps. Sounds to me like you can pick it anytime, but the older it is, the less tender.



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Post by P on Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:48 am

Just like me then ??


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Post by Tater Salad on Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:55 am

P wrote:Just like me then ??


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It also tends to get bitter with age, and lose its shine. Are you tough and bitter and dull? scared smiley

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Post by P on Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:08 am

I leave you to decide for yourself. Suffice it to say that anyone who is prepared to publicly circulate their poetry (particularly in their own local community) needs to be tough. My head is showing an incresing tendency to be less dull, and more shiny as I loose my hair! Bitter? No, but feel free to disagree, I can be quite sharp at times.


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Post by Tater Salad on Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:27 am

Sorry P, I didn't mean it personally; I just couldn't resist when you compared yourself to an eggplant. smile2

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Post by roxanna on Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:48 am

thanks tater, that is useful information.
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Post by P on Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:01 am

Tater Salad wrote:Sorry P, I didn't mean it personally; I just couldn't resist when you compared yourself to an eggplant. smile2

You may come to realise that I'm always looking for "other" meanings in what people say, and that I'm unlikely to take offence, even when things are intended personally!  I love it when people cant resist, so dont be discouraged. Just don't always expect a stock reply, and be prepared to smile. Thats what life's about!


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Post by Breezey Breezey on Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:24 am

roxanna wrote:+thanks for the link breezey, I pinned it, though I've heard about the benefits of kafir I've never tried making it, I will do so now.
after kambucha  (a long time ago ,the novelty wore off)and fermented chicken feed (that they wont eat! ) I think this sounds like the way to go.

by the way ,does anybody know anything about egg plant? mine are the small Lebanese ones, there are no hints when ready to pick ,they are deep purple from birth ! so the ones I picked are green inside, but preserving them anyway ....they won't kill me ..will they?
I couldn't find the info on the net, except for recipes .

You're welcome. smile2 I haven't gotten around to making my own kefir yet...been busy making yogurt. lol Eventually, I'll get there. smile2
Eggplant... as Tater said..when shiny is a good sign. smile2

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