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Post by Breezey Breezey on Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:46 pm

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Vasili Alexandrovich Arkhipov (Russian: Василий Александрович Архипов) (30 January 1926 – 19 August 1998) was a Soviet Navy officer who prevented a nuclear war during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Only Arkhipov, as Flotilla commander and second-in-command of the nuclear-armed submarine B-59, refused to authorize the captain's use of nuclear torpedos against the United States Navy, a decision requiring the agreement of all three senior officers aboard. In 2002 Thomas Blanton, who was then director of the National Security Archive, said that "a guy called Vasili Arkhipov saved the world".[1]

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Post by Tater Salad on Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:43 pm

I have read that we were a lot closer to nuclear  war than anyone realized at the time, but I hadn't read that story before.

I just recently read 'In Retrospect', which was basically Robert McNamara's memoir, which was mainly about his experience as Secretary of Defense under Kennedy and Johnson. While mainly about decisions made in reference to the Vietnam war, also covered events such as the Cuban missile crisis. Although I don't agree with everything he wrote (or did), I found it quite interesting as well as enlightening.

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:35 am

When I think about people at war, bombs, weapons... all that destruction and lives... I really do get an upset stomach. To think people find nuclear weapons even better...
I will never understand people and what makes them fight over things in ways that cause such harm.

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Post by Tater Salad on Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:04 am

Civilization, I think, leads from our higher instincts; while war comes from our baser motives. War is the opposite of civility. Most, if not all wars are the end result of greed, pride, envy, gluttony, wrath, and even lust. Sound familiar? Should we include sloth as well?

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:16 am

Do we know of any animals... dogs, cats, horses, lions, hippos, etc... that will go to such extremes to invent all those things to destroy and then attack?
I just get a real kick out of how many claim humans are well above other animals...(yet can be worse than them).

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Post by Tater Salad on Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:56 am

We have the capacity to rise above our animalistic instincts, but not always the will or desire.

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:36 am

It's a good thing there are some who think and act in positive ways.

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Post by Tater Salad on Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:48 am

It sure is Breezey, and you can see one of them in your mirror.

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:51 am

LOL Good morning and thank you, Tater! Japanese hearts
I see it in others here too. (that's a hint!) smile2

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Post by Tater Salad on Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:49 am

Are you saying I should look in the mirror? Very Happy

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:06 pm

Yes... but NOT while making THAT face! lol
There's a reason I only tell some people about our site.

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Post by Tater Salad on Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:05 am

Because some people are jerks?

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:37 am

I prefer to go with... because some people show their kind and decent sides... smile2

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