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Post by Breezey Breezey on Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:49 am

12 charges filed against former Kiel teacher and basketball coach,
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Kiel school officials were hearing rumors in June
about teacher Ryan Zellner and inappropriate relationships with
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couldn’t substantiate the rumors, and they heard nothing that would have
indicated the scope of a case that could involve victims numbering in
double digits, Lewis said.“It amazes me — especially
finding out what went on — that there was not a hint of this until last
week, not a hint,” Lewis said. “This man is very good at this predator
stuff, very good.”




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Post by Tater Salad on Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:00 pm

Hmmm, they were hearing rumors about him for almost a year, and then the superintendent says there was not a hint...?

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:22 pm

Tater, it makes you wonder how these people are screened and if it's possible to screen "possible" sex offenders. Just because someone has no record, doesn't mean they are okay.
I think we are trusting teachers and others in positions that deal with our children too much. They are still strangers and should be treated about the same.
I tell my children to never go alone to see a teacher, the principle and even the liaison officers.
There is way too much of this crap going on.

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Post by Ja'aj on Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:07 pm

"Just because someone has no record, doesn't mean they are okay."

It doesn't; especially when children are the victims.
It does however, make it less possible to "screen" them out.

Is it working? In many cases the accurate answer is "No."

I prefer this question:
"Are they REALLY even running a "check" - ANY CHECK - at all?!?"

It seems like the answer to that one is, " Nope. for " in too many cases.
Not just teachers - ALL school employees -
custodians, teacher's aides, etc., should be screened ! and not just
"job references".
Employers are very
careful; they are afraid of the repercussions
from giving out "too much"
information nad fear of "discriminating".
Job discrimination laws have real teeth.

But - dammit! - "No record" is one thing; the number of
"a sheet as long as your arm" is another! Those are a matter
of PUBLIC RECORD.
(assuming that the "system" is doing the job)
How hard can it be to find that?

Speculation is wrong. Giving out the FACTS ! is not.

All too frequently, ferreting out even "the facts" is a struggle.
Many times, former employers don't give out anything except
"dates employed" - sometimes only "Yes / No" or "We verify only"
(meaning, "you tell us what the applicant told you, and we will
"agree/not agree".)
No "comebacks" from the former employee there.

The "comebacks" and consequences for our children and their families
can be astronomical.

I am all for my right -and everyone's- to protect against malice
and outright lies.
I am NOT in favor of putting CHILDREN at risk to protect criminals.
- I am dead against! not bothering to even TRY.-

I think maybe OUR job is to demand to see these "checks run"
for the employees.
If they were hired to be around children in any capacity -
then the proof of "no problems found" should be "no problem" to display.

In public schools my tax dollars pay all employees.
ALL of us pay for them if we pay taxes. Kids or no kids is not relevant.

Maybe is "We" who are the ones who must be vigilant.

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Re: Is the screening process working?

Post by roxanna on Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:15 am

we must teach our children to trust their parents/carers/trusted adult enough to not be afraid tell them of any inappropriate behaviour toward them ,from ANYBODY ,including teachers,friends,family members,people in sports and churches.
and give parents the skills to hanle it with support and sensitivity to the child, and how to go about the legalities.
as mentioned above, screening MAY work if there is a record.
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Post by Breezey Breezey on Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:18 am

I have to also wonder if some of the girls took it as a great thing that a cute teacher liked them. When I was in the ninth grade, many of the girls were saying that a certain teacher would give them better grades for wearing low cut shirts. They actually wore low cut shirts to his class and didn't seem to see anything wrong with it.
Is part of the problem that some of the girls don't want to say anything because they don't see it as a bad thing?

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Post by Ja'aj on Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:34 pm

I lacked 1/2 credit to graduate H.S. because the teacher
"hovered"; I quit attending the class.
It wasn't enough to make an "issue" of - it WAS enough
for me not to go to class. The teacher flat gave me the creeps.

My parents didn't object when I didn't graduate; they knew why.

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It seems that employers "assume" one if you have completed
- or attended - college.
No one checked apparently even when I stopped putting the
degrees on any app.
(Too many "over-qualifieds") - so I stopped saying that.

Kinda makes me wonder what else employers "assume" about applicants.

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Post by Ja'aj on Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:48 pm

There is no way to determine what isn't reported because
it doesn't bother the "victim" , I think.
Older kids, both boys and girls, are flattered or think it's some
kind of "proof" of how attractive they are.
Reference the young man and his teacher -after her jail time -
TWICE- who have since married.
This one takes time -
usually until a more responsible person 'notices'. (?)

Rox,
Yes. I think it is another crime when a child tells an adult
and that adult poo-poos the info.

All of which brings me back to:
What 'screening process' is that? Is there one?

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:21 pm

Many times children are not listened to when it comes to an adult being accused of something. As the report about the teacher states, the teacher was accused before now, but nothing happened because the girl couldn't prove it. So... what? Let the teacher be until it happens again? Kind of sucks, if you ask me.

For any adult to take advantage of their position or trust and keep doing so... makes me really upset. Just because a child feels flattered is no reason for anyone to abuse their position in that child's life.

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:23 pm

Any thoughts or ideas on how people can change things for the child and adult? Screening isn't working so well. Maybe parents need to take a more active interest in who is texting their children and what is going on in their lives?

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Post by Tater Salad on Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:56 pm

If an adult, ANY adult, texts a child, that is a HUGE alarm bell going off.

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Post by hoaloha on Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:51 pm

You got that right Tater. I think the parents should be more in charge of what their kids are doing. Teach the kids what certain adults can do, how they can trick you, lie to you, etc. The parents have to be more involved. We never had much of a problem with this when we were growing up, well, we had no cell phones or computers, and I would always tell my parents if I felt something was wrong at school. We had a rascist woodshop teacher who was our football coach after school in 7th grade, and he got mad at me and said to me, cmon Jew boy you can do better. Well, that was one thing no one ever called me or it was fighting time, so that evening I told my Father who was also a teacher at that school. The next day he lit that teacher up, took him into the principles office and almost got him fired. He never said that to me again. Communication is important between kids and their parent or parents. After that, I never played footbaall again, I went to the swim team and never had a problem.I was in 9th grade on the Varsity swim team and was quite proud of that.
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Post by Breezey Breezey on Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:25 pm

Good for you Ron! (((HUG)))

Internet, cell phones and other things... all seem to be more ways to catch the unsuspecting. So glad my younger ones have no cell phones and are monitored on the computer. Still, I think kids need to be made aware of the facts that being sought out by a teacher or other adult in the wrong way... isn't good, even if it is getting them attention that flatters them.

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Post by Tater Salad on Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:47 pm

Breezey, did you hear about the school here in the suburbs that had given all their students laptops, and had secretly taken pictures and screenshots? They claim it was part of a tracking system for lost or stolen laptops, but at least one student was apparently photographed at home numerous times, at least once while he was in bed.

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:54 pm

Tater, I did know about that. The school actually tried to dish out punishment at school for something a student had done at home. It didn't go over well.

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Post by Ja'aj on Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:07 am

Tater Salad wrote:If an adult, ANY adult, texts a child, that is a HUGE alarm bell going off.


Tater,
I asume you mean excepting their parents,
aunts, uncles, grandparents... ?

Teaching childen to talk- and share - what goes on
in their day to day lives is a good place to start.

Maybe explaining about the laws regarding age and
sexual relationships - and the reasons for them - might not hurt.


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Post by Tater Salad on Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:19 am

I don't see any valid reason a relative would want to text the child instead of calling them. For one thing, if you're checking on them to make sure everything is okay, and they are where they said they would be, hearing the child's voice can go a long way in assuring that everything IS really okay, or could be an indication that it is NOT all right.

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Post by Breezey Breezey on Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:57 am

I am with Tater on this. Even relatives are not always what they should be. Nobody should be an exception when explaining to children what is acceptable, good and okay.

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